In the Original Series (Captain Kirk), in an episode titled "Elaan of Troyius" (3rd season) Kirk threatens to spank a bratty princess-type, and she seems very interested in the prospect. I saw this spoof of Star Trek the other day, and was reminded of the episode. Just a one-smacker (about halfway through the clip), but it's cute.







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Thanks, Lorraine, for posting that clip. You're right, it IS "cute." And I wish the subsequent versions of Star Trek had kept the female personnel in those hot mini-uniforms like the original show did, back in the 1960s.

Cheers,
Dan

Hi, Dan! I agree, the original outfits are adorable. By the way, I love your artwork. A great bridge between retro and modern, helping to show the timeless universality of this wonderful subject.

Best wishes, Lorraine.

I wonder how universal the concept of "hot" female attire is among sci-fi culture generally. I recently watched "Forbidden Planet", a cult classic from hoary antiquity and it too featured a hot female, hotly attired. Maybe 'cause it's guys who usually write this stuff? D'ya suppose?

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Karl Friedrich Gauss

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Cheers
Chross

Yeah Chross, that scene from Star Trek is very cute... in spite of the spanking that, though suggested, never came to be.

It's especially interesting because it now appears that William Shatner is the FIRST white actor to ever kiss TWO women of different races on TV.

He kissed Nichelle Nichols in "Star Trek" in 1966, then France Nuyen in the same show, in 1968. Nichols is black, Nuyen is Vietnamese.

And it recalls an amusing moment from William Shatner's latest TV venture, "Boston Legal." Can't remember the actress' name, but a couple of seasons ago this young, attractive black female attorney was hired as a law associate in Shatner's office.

The show is off the air now, but Shatner (who's now 78) played the stereotypical "dirty old man" in the show, and he welcomed the young black attorney warmly, then said something like:

"You know, we really should have a get-acquainted session in my office. (Beat.) I'm a great believer in diversity."

Once a d.o.m., always a d.o.m.

Cheers,
Dan



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Great find, Lorraine and Chross. When do you suppose this was made -- mid 60s? Before the advent of women's liberation for sure. The spanking motif in this clip is like a carryover from those old westerns and early Hollywood movies with naughty and sassy women getting their comeuppance across some dominant man's lap.

Karl Friedrich Gauss

1968

The comment about women in early movies and TV shows getting their comeuppance in the form of a spanking is spot on. But now it is not "politically correct."
Ironically its okay now to show women being brutally beaten, shot, stabbed, and so on by men, on the screen. But not a spanking.
It brings to mind the Hercules show when Xena Warrior Princess was introduced and was a real villainess, but decided to reform after she was brutally beaten in a gauntlet by men in her army who had turned against her. I saw somewhere about a fake showing her being spanked by Hercules, but have never found it. Beaten with clubs over the head is okay to happen to a female villain, but getting spanked is not, according to the present mindset.
Have seen a picture of Wonder Woman being spanked by Superman on some spanking art site. Who knows, maybe someone knows about one with Xena and will bring it to our attention.

Tanner,

It really is a curious contrast you point to, and while what you say is true, I do see a significant difference between spanking and more "generic" violence. And I'm sure we all see that difference, around here at least, and that's why we're all fans of spanking and don't care so much to see pictures of women being otherwise "beaten" into submission.

No doubt the political incorrectness of spanking also has to do with that special something that makes it so appealing to some. At least that's my 2 cents worth.

Karl Friedrich Gauss

Rather easy to explain. If a woman is stabbed or mistreated, the man is easily identified as a bad guy, commiting a crime.
You may always show a crime on TV.
But a spanking might not be as easy to categorize, so it's more difficult to show in a way.
A man getting spanked however is perfectly okay it would seem. He must be into it right? Otherwies he wouldn't let himself victimize by a woman...



Anyway here's a (crude) Xena spanking!



Cheers
Chross



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I just use my TV for DVDs, and. I'm glad I don't watch regular TV, if men are being spanked at all. The idea of males on the receiving-end always seems pathetic to me in some odd, sad way, and I'm glad the web labels such things so they can be avoided.

I'm glad to have been of assistance with the Star Trek, kind Sirs!

Totally off-topic (well, not totally, obviously)... Probably something none of you guys would ever generally rent out for yourselves--in the DVD of "Anne of Green Gables: The Sequel" (made I think in the 90s) somewhere in the first half Anne gets a riding crop across her behind for being her usual uppity-self as she and some young fella are walking and talking. It surprised me that it happened, and it she says "I'm not your horse!" or something.

Lorraine.



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Lorraine,

Does this cropping scene you mention take place when Anne was a grown woman? I've actually never read the books, but I did see the stage show once.

Anne does seem like such feisty young lady, I'd be surprised if one swat of the crop was "all" she got.

I know there was some spanking involved in Little House on the Prairie, although once again, it's not the sort of book I'd read. Gotta be historically authentic, I guess. It just wouldn't do to revisit pioneer days with the political correctness lenses of our postmodern times.

Karl Friedrich Gauss

Karl--

Yes, she's about to go off to be a teacher, so she's probably 18 or so. The guy who does the swat (it is just one, but it's pretty smart) is the man she eventually marries. In the original Anne of Green Gables movie Anne's friend (about 16 years old) gets drunk, and Anne's guardian says the friend should be spanked--but alas it doesn't happen. Also in The Sequel Anne herself threatens the Headmistress (yes, really) with a good spanking. So there's definitely some old-fashioned values toward wayward females throughout the two films. Anne canes a girl in The Sequel, also, but the girl is unappealing and the caning is tediously "on the hand."

Lorraine



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Lorraine,

This discussion reminds me of an Australian film I saw back in the 70s about a young teacher who thrashes a wayward male pupil (well, that wasn't really what the whole film was about). It was set somewhere in the outback and had an artsy/indie feel to it. At the time I thought the film was well done. Sorry I can't remember the title.

The Australians have put out a lot of good films. The more recent "Rabbit Proof Fence" might have had some spanking in it, but it didn't. Still it's a good film, if you don't mind watching the young being oppressed.

Karl Friedrich Gauss



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All the girls I mentioned are in their late teens. I'm not interested in children being spanked. Also, not only is spanking a sexually charged act, it can as well be considered one of emasculation or "taming," which is why I don't encourage the idea of males on the receiving end--I believe they need their masculinity, and that they have been emasculated by harrowing "feminism" for quite long enough, in my humble opinion.

Lorraine



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Lorraine,

I'm much happier to see women in their late teens on the receiving end of a spanking. Somehow though, we don't see much of it in mainstream movies. Kind of hard to fit into the plot as if anyone is even trying to do so.

Still, I regard cinematic depictions of childhood spanking as being of at least "cultural" interest. It's been common practice. It's had an effect. We need to somehow process it or deal with it, or come to terms with its effects. That's my thinking. It's all part of putting the puzzle pieces together, for me at least. I like to look into cultural contexts and so forth. But I can certainly understand that you might not even want to hear about it. I can respect that.

And of course our focus here on this forum is adult spanking.

Feminism of course has many shades of meaning and I've heard even submissive females talk about being "feminist" and I can see how that doesn't have to be contradictory. Still, I think I see what you're getting at in your reference to a feminism that devalues masculinity.

Karl Friedrich Gauss



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Yeah, I should have put "feminism" in quote-marks. I'll fix that now.

The Australian film KFG is thinking of is probably "My Brilliant Career," starring a very young Judy Davis.

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> Feminism of course has many shades of meaning and
> I've heard even submissive females talk about
> being "feminist" and I can see how that doesn't
> have to be contradictory.

I think I'd be inclined to say 'especially' submissive females. Eve Howard, for one, has always affirmed there's absolutely no contradiction between feminism and a liking for being spanked, since she believes an essential element of feminism is a woman's right to explore her own sexuality in whatever way she chooses. And I know a lot of spankophile women would agree with her.

Of course, there's always this angle: